NEIL WILLIAMS: Part-time back and forth until '85 and part of '86 a little bit. NEIL WILLIAMS: Countyhe was a county executive to the Board of Supervisors. MIJA RIEDEL: Interesting, because she made such a clear distinction between her own work and pottery. NEIL WILLIAMS: I understand that. That makes sense for those pieces. And I also think it's getting better and better, little small, like I said it's been five years. [Laughs.] 0000005718 00000 n One artist was talking about art in the panel; she was talking about, "Art is about art" and was being very egocentric. And the fool wouldn't take them. Again, put yourself in a healthy working space, establish your maximum level of skill, or your maximum, and then work at 98, 95 percent of that. NEIL WILLIAMS: On to visuals. It wasnt until he left school that he ever thought of riding as a career. Washington, DC 20001, 300 Park Avenue South Suite 300 [Laughs.] NEIL WILLIAMS: And there was the famous candlestick incident, where [Laughs.] NEIL WILLIAMS: right up until the day she died. NEIL WILLIAMS: And, she's got a great level of appreciation for arts, and she's been really, really good, reallyshe's tough though, too. NEIL WILLIAMS: It was cheaper to have me down there, apparently, even though the parents had moved up here. MIJA RIEDEL: You've taught at many different places over many different years. MIJA RIEDEL: So respect by significant peers. Would you say more about that? You were born in Oakland in '59? MIJA RIEDEL: I'm thinking culturallyhow you learned ceramics so early on and worked with a fellow who studied in Japan, the feeling about ceramic pots there is completely different. It's like, "Yeah, but then the trick is to make an asymmetrical shape using an"no, "make a symmetrical shape using an asymmetrical approach. Dorothy was wonderful. I was given a bag of clay and started working with it. Any follow-up thoughts from the conversation last night? Well, we've done a good job of covering these questions. MIJA RIEDEL: Okay. MIJA RIEDEL: And I'm curious, when you say "spiritually, it fulfilled self-respect." So he would keep the conception always around her. So, I don't know if that answers your question or helps to. NEIL WILLIAMS: You know, trying to be an independent artist is not for the squeamish. NEIL WILLIAMS: Him and his friend Nick Bishop, in a drunken stupor one night, conceived of them as the new county administration offices, because they needed new ones and they were completely inexpensive to build. But they were. NEIL WILLIAMS: They are over at the end of Elm Street at 49. Is there any tradition involved in bolstering the success of that intent? NEIL WILLIAMS: And it was already in color, but sheand she literally used those directly in some of her images when she exploded. MIJA RIEDEL: Has travel affected your work at all? NEIL WILLIAMS: In their work, and inalso, in them as human beings. She wanted to keep things focused on her, and her work, and her love of color and form, and her images, andsoand also, it kept her isolated in a sense that sheunless you had something to do with the direct aspect of production of her work, or assisting in that, youshe didn't haveshe had little time or energy for. I am, and I. NEIL WILLIAMS: I mean, it's just like, when I was taking care of my grandmother, and she had Alzheimer's, and we would go out to lunch and visit and talk. NEIL WILLIAMS: And she's like, she would say, "This is our thing, Neil." They're almost like not markers. Was there a wheel? She gotit was the height of making those big men, and they were enormous. Well, by the time they finished them, they had a dedication ceremony, and Buckminster Fuller came out to dedicate it because it was based on his geodesic dome design, and he was absolutely enthralled. NEIL WILLIAMS: And part of that also is thatI don't know if it's intentional, but I don't see a lot of knock-offs or copying, because, and it can't be molded. NEIL WILLIAMS: If you like the attention, if you like the advantages, great, but if it's at the cost of your life, or if it's at the cost of your work going soft or losing its edge, I mean all artists have ebbs and flows, right? MIJA RIEDEL: Well, do we know for sure it happened at U.C. And he built them, and they were the original administration buildings. He had a really good background fromin painting. Myfather was a naval intelligence officer, anti-submarine warfare, and was always involved in localhe was county supervisor, welfare director. But she thought things through very well, but she was also really stubborn when she knew she was right, and of course she was always right, it was her work. So wheels? MIJA RIEDEL: I'm thinking about the difference between going to the studio to make your own work and, NEIL WILLIAMS: I've done a lot of work on the class, NEIL WILLIAMS: but as far as, some of them, MIJA RIEDEL: How does that affect the process? NEIL WILLIAMS: There'sit's like, and then one of my brother says, "Hey, I saw your piece in a show in the de Young Museum." NEIL WILLIAMS:off the deep end, if Iyou know I used tothere was a period it was like I'd look and I'd see what other people were doing and the attention and the accolades and thesome other peopleand the independence and the ability that they had to explore because they could afford to then. Analytics cookies help website owners to understand how visitors interact with websites by collecting and reporting information anonymously. But, Rena was extremely generous and paid for all kinds of promotional shippings and before she even considered sales from Viola's work. NEIL WILLIAMS: Like, "Oh, what a beautiful red" and she would layer colors like she would painting. So. Neil Williamsalways brought light to every room entered. So there's a certain similarity and consistency, and there's a certain comfort in that. He was volatile, and scary. NEIL WILLIAMS: So, those kinds of things, and mysteries, you know, I like mysteries. In the temple we quietly ponder why we are here upon the earth and the power and glory of our Savior in making our return to our Heavenly Father possible, Elder Andersen said. MIJA RIEDEL: Okay. Yeah. I remember the first day I was there, I met a woman from Beirut. Ive seen so many people who go to wrong sources. He didn't like people in parties or company, was very isolationist. My older brothers had a friend who was a parolee out of Soledad. NEIL WILLIAMS: And I thought it was much simpler than that, and muchnot that it hasn't been a rich life, butI've never been one to draw a lot of attention to myself, like consciously. Interviewee Neil Williams (1959- ) is an artist from Auburn, California. I think anytime you can give a student who doesn't have any connection or any experience with the arts, you can give them some small experience. The intention is to display ads that are relevant and engaging for the individual user and thereby more valuable for publishers and third party advertisers. She was just fantastic. Differences in early work to later to now is that it's gotten, I think, noticeably better, and it's improved in small steps, usually in five-year increments. Statistics based on race type and more.. Rhys Williams Tips. This is card number three. A life so beautifully lived deserves to be beautifully remembered. NEIL WILLIAMS: I mean it's spectacular. I mean, the tremendous output he had. "I'm going to the studio to work, not to play." [Laughs. There can bethey can get really good quality if you get connected with the right person. Create your account , it takes less than a minute, Dont let the game play you; gamble responsibly. Not. You can directly shop your flowers on Amazon. NEIL WILLIAMS: We had spoken earlier evenMark Twain and H.P. NEIL WILLIAMS: And then she unfortunately passed away pretty young, years ago. NEIL WILLIAMS: But Marjorie was a character. Three days a week? MIJA RIEDEL: Would you talk about a piece or two? And it's something that, if you were able tohowever they needed to work through it, who knows what could have come from them? But the spiritual part of itI don't really. . But, so anyway, that's how hethat's how their pieces ended up at A.S.U. You don't get too wrapped up in what the neighbors say or think. [Laughs.] I don't know, I justsomewhere, I'll get connected with somebody who will help in that area eventually, again. Pheasants, and, hawks, and turkeys, and eagles, and owls, and hummingbirds, and all kinds of varieties of birds. So, she encouraged that and nurtured that very heavily, but, MIJA RIEDEL: It was almost an unconscious sense of personal experience, from what I understand, because none of the work equated directly to her own personal experience, but somehow. It's like, "Wow, I can't believe I made that.". [Affirmative. . So, I mean, "immortality" might be a little grandiose, but it's all inI think how you want to be remembered, what you want to leave behind. MIJA RIEDEL: Both. And, I understand she has since passed, but last I heard, there was an amazing cache of two floors or three floors of antiques and such that are kind of lying dormant. WebNeil Williams: After his suicide in 1999 his widow said hed come to hate racing after a close friend had been killed in a race at Canterbury six years earlier Stathi Katsidis: The 31 NEIL WILLIAMS: She worked hard on them but they were alsoI know, quite fun. I got to back out and work for her, orbut he washe was ahe was a treat. NEIL WILLIAMS: And he was a battlefield medic in Vietnam, and he's got this amazing aura about him. Well, it's like, "Nobody told me. NEIL WILLIAMS: All the time. NEIL WILLIAMS: for the rest of their life. NEIL WILLIAMS: physically kept working. That's helpful. NEIL WILLIAMS: And fire there, and glaze there, and learn about glazes. A presentation of a bouquet of flowers is a special way of showing youre thinking of them and their loss, as the bright colours reflect the personality of the passed loved one. And I know she. Viola used to call them the "dead wood." I mean it was just me and a ladder. But, earlier, when she was younger, and she was able to do the painting, and I think the sculptures were much moreglove-like. Somewhere at the first day of Arts and Crafts, or the first week of Arts and Crafts. NEIL WILLIAMS: a composition, the clarity of image, the figure groundwork in the paintings and the charcoal, or the pastels. How do they survive and make a living? NEIL WILLIAMS: He thought it was beautiful, the little old ladies hanging up. MR] about Viola's plates, or the bronzes. You usually hear artists complaining and in some form about their dealer, or being stressed by the dealer, or being pressured to make certain lines of work orbut that never came. So, if that gets into a spiritual phenomenon, then that makes sense to me. But, yeah, I learned a lot from that. "There she is!" NEIL WILLIAMS: Spent time in some of Thiebaud's early workshops. But she'd alsowe're doing these bricoleur, these junk pieces out of the cast molds, that I thought were absolutely fascinating. MIJA RIEDEL: Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. Even though they were colorful and they were kind of drawn and animated and doll-like. However, that experience also helped her better understand the Saviors Atonement. MIJA RIEDEL: Mm-hmm. Same idea? She said, "I neveras long as on Christmas or Thanksgiving, I have a kiln to open and look at" that's what she did. "Well here, let me send you something." NEIL WILLIAMS: Uh-huh. I did some children size. NEIL WILLIAMS: there wasn athere was a celebration of life. NEIL WILLIAMS: So, I spend the time trying to figure that out and try to apply the whole psychotherapy aspect of it butand I realized that it wasit became somewhat redundant to try and figure it out. NEIL WILLIAMS: Never around. They got very pronounced. Yeah. New York , NY 10010, Washington, D.C. Headquarters and Research Center. I mean, it was like a crash course. May you find comfort knowing that life continues forever in heaven even as the memories shared live forever in our hearts. I remember we were driving back from installing her Crocker retrospective [ph]. NEIL WILLIAMS: Yeah, within the end of the first semester there, yeah. You knowis the intention of the artist clear in this piece? Go to a show and you see incrementally [ph]. I'm thinking of a story that someone told [me MR]something happened to Charles and he was in the hospital, and, MIJA RIEDEL: a couple of friends came over to visit Viola, and they said there was just no conversation, nobody was talking. NEIL WILLIAMS: place to be. Used to get overwhelmed by it. NEIL WILLIAMS: And, as a child, you perceive an object and you react to it; you practice it. She's good, she's been a really good, positive influence on it. And your mother? I never worried about it working on a spiritual level, because if it does that for somebody else, like we talked about the apples on a table, that's great. I mean, Betty Asher was wonderful, of course, the matriarch of west coast art, and Rena kept an eye on me and was always very generous and very helpful, especially if I needed to reach out and, "Rena, I have a few new pieces I would like to be able to get some more materials," and she would buy them and resell them. NEIL WILLIAMS: that's why some of her students were good and excelled and a lot of them were like, "What is she?" And, I think it helped me growing up here a lot, to be able to go to off to school, or to be able to relate to such a variety of different people successfully. So you would make pieces there. NEIL WILLIAMS: But I didn't think she got that excited about them. MIJA RIEDEL: You said something yesterday that I want to go back and revisit briefly. It dates back to 1937, is that right? [Affirmative.] And he said, "A museum down there wants an installation." Someone might ask, Cant I be a disciple of Jesus Christ and not be a participating member of the Church?, Once members of the Church have received the gift of the Holy Ghost, they are changed forever, Elder Andersen said. But, so as far as fitting into the bigger picture of the art world, the American art market, American art world, I justit's pretty simple. She was just using me as a sounding board, of course, a fresh, young eye, whatever it was. Elder Neil L. Andersen of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles and his wife, Sister Kathy Andersen, leave the arena after speaking during the weekly BYU campus devotional on Tuesday, Jan. 17, 2023. 0000007211 00000 n That's where I see more of those thingsspirituality isif it'syou know, makes any contribution, if somebody sees it, and they get a charge out of it, or if they see it and it stimulates something in them, spiritually, or in thoughts, or physically, which color and form can do, then it can have a profoundlike Charles Fiske would say, "Profound physiological effect on a person.". NEIL WILLIAMS: and then she had electric kilns at home. ", NEIL WILLIAMS: I like that feeling of accomplishment at the end of the day, of exhaustion that you've given, and you've been able toespecially working with clay, you manifest something out of nothing but a ball of mud. And that's unusual. MIJA RIEDEL: The two pieces that were sitting here yesterday, they're recent? They felt, they seemed like a variation, quite a variation fromwere they a commission or where they, NEIL WILLIAMS: No, they were not commissions. Well, there is an amazing history in this gold rush area of inventive people taking off and. Does that resonate with you? Okay. NEIL WILLIAMS: So, there was a friend who had gotten several pairs and she called them "The Keys of Life," and my concept was in the paintedthe straight line painted ones. So it was a completely different sense. And it wasshe was so sincere in her dealings with ViolaI know, I'm sure Viola used to frustrate the hell out of her sometimes about certain things. Well, and then after that, there was a couple other shows in Sacramento and thenbut notI need to update that, MIJA RIEDEL: Fouts. Maybe I should be. MIJA RIEDEL: Mm-hmm. MIJA RIEDEL: You never talked at all about your working process, and I think that would be helpful. It's like Noguchi would say, "It's an interesting phenomenon. $ 199.99 Neal Williams - 2013 Soundgarden - New York Concert Poster. Switch to the dark mode that's kinder on your eyes at night time. So, it's a good fit so far. It was her first big coming out show since she'd hid out for nine years and just made work, put it in your backyard or up your attic orand, she was talking about the opening, "Well, I hope so-and-so's going to be there." NEIL WILLIAMS: They'd tell you to grow up, and yetbut at the same timeit was empowering and working with clay. make sure the graphviz executables are on your systems' path. NEIL WILLIAMS: I may be mistaken, butthose kinds of, MIJA RIEDEL: The density. So, there is something that's stimulating and it's not something that I want to obsess over or completely give a lot of energy to. I mean, Betty Asher's, Stphane Janssen's collection wasare you familiar with him at all? And smart, because you get the best out of an artist that way. It was the largest sculpture I think ever that year in Europe," or something like that. I mean, she wasso nice to me and sobecause the vessel wasn't her thing really. I was content to just whoever connected with it, whoever wanted to rep it, wasRena was amazingly helpful. So there was a. NEIL WILLIAMS: So, there's always hopefully, it gives the work depth and some character, that it's not just a haphazard, it has some validity to it and it's based on pieces that haven't worked, which have been many, many, many. The way you're describing it, it's clearly been there for years and years and years. He was kind of an Ag kid, but had a rare take on reality and visual arts. MIJA RIEDEL: Did you have a sense about the motivation or the influence between the single figures and the cluster of figures? And so, and she, I think, got a lot of it. Differences? She was doing wonderful paintings, big paintings. I rememberimages were very personal to her, of course, and it made sense because she was in a panel once, a discussion panel at NCECA [National Council on Education for the Ceramic Arts]. NEIL WILLIAMS: and a pair because of, you know, the connotations of pairing, and hopefully the intimacy thatand the negative shape between the two was really important. ", NEIL WILLIAMS: And it worked and it made sense, so. . All information including race fields and TAB numbers should be checked with an official source. [Negative.] [Affirmative.] She said, "Yes, you're in box number so-and-so and so-and-so and crate number so-and-so and so." She was very competitivecame back in all fired up one day in the studio and made me pour about 80 candlestick images that she was going to use in her, you know, NEIL WILLIAMS: new series of jug pieces. NEIL WILLIAMS: I just started working with it. 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