I rode the Cervelo Aspero today up Makuri Island Spiritual Tree KOM just below 8 minutes while the MTB was pegged by its weight penalt simply cannot matched that time and lost by over a minute. This means the faster-rolling MTB Crr is being equalized by the Gravel bikes lighter weight. You know you should really put a disclaimer on all performance pages that the timings change frequently without warning or reason and the charts are frequently out of date. Just like riding outside you may take your comfortable endurance bike out for a long easy ride with friends, then ride your aero race bike in the crit. Slower riders: if you ride at 3 w/kg, youll see a bigger time advantage by using the gravel bike on the Temple KOM. Tron and Tarmac Pro both right around 5:30, Canyon Grail a little over 5:10. disclaimer: times are hard to compare because a lot actually depends on shifting gears to keep power up when the climb flattens out several times. Yep, that is correct. Its all good, I climbed into the top 100 overall on VV, which serves to temper my passions around nailing every fresh route. The ToW course is Three Little Sisters vs. Three Sisters. One of the earliest graphic elements on Zwift flew over to Watopia on day 1. This means you dont have to swap back to the gravel bike, so your 15s swap cost will be easily made up by the speed advantage to the top. returning to this with ZRL next week. Cheers Eric, Ive been waiting for this advice, and here it is. I just hit level 18 and almost have enough drops to buy the Chapter2 TOA. Interactive map to discover all worlds and routes of Zwift. That wont be noticeable by most, especially if youre spending a good portion of your race sitting in the draft and not pushing to your very limit. Power Ups. Crr is a bigger factor by far. 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It might have been nerfed, but thousands were sold and not everyone will read this article. EVENT DESCRIPTION. So the new Crux and Enve gravel wheels I bought for the ToW will be sitting in my garage while I get assigned a standard bike? Also different tiers might be a good option. There are choices from both of Cervlo's road going R and S ranges on Zwift as well as being able to choose a rapid TT specific bike. Based on the amount of time spent on swapping bikes, it doesnt look like swapping before and after the dirt on the Countryside tour will end up saving much/any time on anything other than the last lap, but FTS points for the KoM may make changing bikes aRead more . Now, to the question at hand: does bike choice really matter in Zwift? IF the question is taking in mind that Race Makuri Stage 3 is on this course TT bike is not a viable choice . What new bike could they add that would make any difference, other than for personal preference? Given the weather here recently, that would be the bike with mudguards then. If I select a route in game, then do all of the default turns follow that route? (Like, why is the Steel worse than the Safety, which is clearly a joke frame? document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); document.getElementById( "ak_js_2" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Would love your thoughts, please comment. and THAT is assuming an all-conditions equal time trial for the same rider in a controlled effort. Use the Time Analysis Tool to adjust Drag (CdA), Average Power, Rider Weight and Rolling Resistance (Crr) to your own specific numbers. See how you can support Zwift Insider! I think that was to resolve the issue with people on Apple Macs not being able to log in. Feels so real. This advice is good for individual time trial or solo KOMs. How about NEVER? This medium-length route begins at the downtown Watopia start/finish banner when free riding, but from the start pen on the Watopia Pier in an event. Ouch. This spin bike is a great option for those looking for a quality workout indoors. The Long and Standard Options both climb Alpe du Zwift. Three Little Sisters Route Details (Watopia), https://zwiftinsider.com/strava-match-old-activities/, https://zwiftinsider.com/fastest-climbing-by-level/, Zwift Racing League Week 3 Guide: Innsbruckring, Top 5 Zwift Videos: Racing Gone Wrong, PRL Full, and Budget Setups, Save $50 on Zwift Hub with this Strava Challenge. Route: Three Little Sisters Distance: 29.19 km // 18.13mi Elevation: 405 m // 1,328 ft . Having all these nice rigs at our disposal, though, can make bike selection even more confusing, because differences between setups are so minor. It includes ~27.6km of roads, and ~8.6km of those roads are dirt. Article states in an event only route (Tour of Watopia) which doesnt start until the 9th March (tomorrow). Same with the Chapter2 bike. By comparison, the easily attainable Specialized Tarmac Pro or Cannondale EVO frames could be paired with the low-level unlocked ENVE 3.4 or DT Swiss ARC 62 wheels to turn in a time of 48:49 (59s faster). Probably not, since the overall advantage gained isnt enough to outweigh the 30-second cost of swapping to one bike then swapping back again. STAGE 4: RACE LIKE A PRO Three Little Sisters (Movistar) (B) Total Entrants--Jersey-- Those look like a solid choice as a must-buy upgrade. Continuing on with my plan of riding one hard climb each week, this week I took on Zwift's Three Sisters route, which features three of Watopia's climbs: Hilly KOM; Epic KOM; Volcano KOM; All packed into one 47.7km circuit. This route is not selectable from the routes menu, so Im not sure what freely ridable means. hollywood voucher at shoprite. I should add, it didnt start in Downtown. 'Blood Sport - The Cyclists' Blood Bible' Available Now: https://bloodsport.cc -----. Its not important to me, but just not understanding routes very well. For example, I went with an Aspero (gravel) on the Two Villages Loop in an event last night and the difference was patently clear. Just like outside, a more aero setup will perform best on high-speed flats and downhills, while a lighter-weight bike is what you want for long climbs. Dont worry, assuming youre in the level 18-30 range theres nothing worth buying for a while now (and the Chapter 2 is still a great all around frame until you get Tron or level up for the Addict). The best bike for this route will likely be an all-arounder frame with either a the DT Swiss disc or the Zipp 858s. Three Sisters Forward from Start Pier segments? Things start getting complex when youre talking about routes that have climbs and descents, because gravel bikes are much lighter than MTB, meaning they will outclimb them, especially if the dirt gets steep. (i finished on 3.1wpk). Three Little Sisters. CycleOps Phantom 3. Zwift Insider is independent of Zwift corporate (www.zwift.com), although Zwift does provide funding to help defray site costs. Route profile by ZwiftHub the place to plan and track your route achievements! 3R Three Sisters Hilly RaceThree Sisters, 1 Lap, 47kmJanuary 30, 2021100km/h Breakdown - https://youtu.be/7hS9GamQlEc0:00 Intro2:18 Start of Race3:53 Hilly K. Do the math, and the difference between the slowest and fastest setups pulled from our fastest frames and wheels lists works out to just 3-4W. If the road got steeper, the Gravel bike's lead would increase. This RACE is brought to you by 3R to help draw attention to our charity partners. Each new climb is longer than the one before, and we take the shortest possible route to get from climb to climb. Soon after I joined Zwift I saw a pic of a L50 rider on a P5X frame with Zipp 858/Super9 wheels. Conclusion: newer Zwifters should upgrade from the stock frame and wheels to a decent entry-level race setup. lighter riders have to do slightly more w/kg in order to keep up on flats. It's a short kicker of a climb, but it's a challenging 6.9%. has it been nurfed? Yes, i think the mtb will always win in the jungle. For a quick video on how to use it, head over to this video. You can on gravel and road. Not that theres a long stretch of supertuckable road on the descent, but I might need to rest after blowing up on the climb to the tree. I got dropped on tarmac shortly after start despite producing 350W, no way to catch the C category bunch. Recently I joined the crew at No Breakaways for an Outside the Draft vodcast where we talked about all things Zwift racing (watch it here). Is that just the margin of error here because the climb is so much shorter, or is it all the flat (and flat-ish) bits where the aero ability of the Grail shines through? Zwift launched Yumezi, the first map on its new Makuri Islands world, early this week. Push hard, level up, and Ride On! Not only this, but it would be nice to know whether the gap between, say, the S-Works Venge and the new Pinarello F is still two seconds at 200 watts or whether it changes. Do you want an edge on the dirt climb? Nothing particularly impressive about that to most people other then me but I was pumped. Top marks as ever! Please leave those comments and hit that subscribe Don't forget, none of this is advice, you do you. So, the TRON for all rides except the gravel ride. This post focuses on bike recommendations for Zwifts NEW routes, as the title says. In other words, does Zwift have different frame sizes for different sized riders? Zwift is virtual training for running and cycling. 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Saves having to change bikes anyway and its nice to actually have a reason for using them now. Best Bike Split uses cookies to personalize content and analyze traffic to this site. You cant supertuck on MTB. 510 195 lbs and not much of a climber using Spec Allez sprint with 808s with 200,000 drips wanting to buy my next frame soon. Not that crazy. Am I remembering correctly that you can supertuck with the road or gravel bikes but not the mtb? The bike will actually tilt up or down in order to match the elevation of the course, it can go up 20% or down -15%. Maybe you should have led with that. Probably be better to re-arrange everything than force people to wait that long to update those two bike styles however. We ran some Kappa Quest test laps at 300W steady with a 75kg rider using five different bike setups. Roval Alpinist if you are going w/best climbing set-up. The same principle holds true in a team time trial setting. Oohhhhh thanks, so weird, just read that . Three Sisters Forward from Start Pier Smash your goals and compete with others around the world. Weird to roll out new gravel frame and wheels and then not let zwifters use them for their handful of gravel event! . So Maya jungle still MTB is best choice? Are you going to update this page with new Makuri routes? . Edit: The segment is already there, segment ID 31205450 (Three Little Sisters (from Start Pen) and now its also listed above . Trusted by the pros. For the rider, we modeled a lighter athlete holding roughly 2.5 to 2.7 Watts/Kg. Conclusion: get the fastest rig available for time trials. Any chance of the new ribble ultra SLR R-Hero being added? Good question. Does swapping bikes make sense on Yumezi? Our math and physics engine takes your power data . While this route has three key climbs, theyre all short and slack enough that an aero bike will match a climbing bikes performance on the uphills, and be faster on the flats and descents. That is why I wrote it. Eric runs Zwift Insider in his spare time when he isn't on the bike or managing various business interests. Animated map provided by ZwiftHacks. Not a KOM where you can just power through in the same gear without losing a lot of time. Theyre going to eventually have to increase the number of levels beyond 50. Is there an updated speed test for frames and wheels? Switching to the start pier segment penalizes those who did it as a free ride, leaving it as is means the vast majority of people who did the route dont match the segment. Zwift uses several factors to determine your speed in its virtual world. But the virtual world also affects your speed - so you'll go slower up a virtual climb, faster when you're drafting, slower on certain road surfaces, etc. This route originally started as a Rebel Route, and will now be an event only route badge. Best of both worlds would have been to create a segment that starts after the start piers join the route, but its too late for that now, half of this stage of Tour of Watopia is over and those people wontRead more , Riding the climbs hard from the gun, I managed to complete the route in under 58:00! Ridiculous and short sighted decision IMO. I would have rather had Road to Sky as an option for the chance of the Lightweight wheels. He named it in homage to Zwifts official Three Sisters route which takes us over the Hilly, Volcano, and Epic KOMs. When the time comes to push, 3-4W isnt going to make or break your success. Sounded to good to be true. Do your results mean that the Canyon Grail is faster than the Specialized Crux with the Gravel Wheels? Instead, well turn left toward the desert and Titans Grove, then another left to get into the Grove. 18.3 mi: 01:13:47: view: Three Little Sisters NEW: Hilly: 168 w: 19 mph: 23.4 mi: 01:15:24: view: Out and Back Again: Hilly: 170 w: 19 mph: 24.7 mi: 01:16:38: view: Mountain 8: . You'll feel every incline and you'll definitely need to push a bit harder to reach the top of each climb. Its not a steep climb, but its long enough to hurt if youre trying to grab that KOM jersey! document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); document.getElementById( "ak_js_2" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Ive done some slightly less scientific test rides & concluded that the gravel bike is a good option on the mixed routes here will be interesting to have races over the mixed terrain! Cheers Eric, Ive been waiting for this route originally started as a Rebel route, and Epic.... 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